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Proposition 8 and Civil Rights

November 17, 2008

I had said that after the election that I would educate myself more on the Proposition 8 amendment that passed in California and Utah (whcih I understand was a clear majority in that state).  From what I gather, in California in particular, over 75% of African Americans supported the proposition, which bans same sex marriage.  It is interesting that the term civil rights and African American, at least in my mind, are synonyms, but we are willing to infringe on the rights of a group that feels they should have the same kind of rights afforded to them.  Don't get me wrong, I am not sure myself how I feel about this issue.  I am not certain that I think that what you do in the bedroom, between consenting adults, should somehow translate into a civil rights issue, but I still find it curious that a majority of Blacks in a certain region object to the issue.  I don't know what to think. 

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Jason, the polls were probably exit polls where they conducted brief interviews with a sample of people as they left their polling place. From this sample they came up with percentages to be applied to the population of people who voted. Such samples may not be exactly accurate, but in many cases, they are indicative of the behavior of the population as a whole.

Most of the people who are against gay marriage use religious arguments to back their position. They also use the logical fallacy of the slippery slope argument - "If we let gays marry, then what next? Allow humans to marry dogs?" The ridiculousness of such an argument is quite apparent, but obviously not to everyone.

Posted 48 days ago by Austin

Voting is suppose to be anonymous, so I question the validity of the poll.  Also, who was responsible for the poll?  Either way, I don't quite understand how allowing someone to be committed and become a more stable home can be bad for anyone?  Also, how does other people getting married affect others, i.e. even if a heterosexual couple gets married tomorrow, it won't affect me, so why would a gay couple affect me.  "RIGHTS" is a powerful word and why shouldn't everyone have the same rights?  I thought that was the point of this country....  If someone can explain why it's so bad for same sex marriage other than, I think it's wrong, then I will agree, as of now, I could care less if anyone wants to get married.  Because I have heard a lot of reasons why it is bad if a committed couple can't be married; i.e., legal, in death decisions, property, etc.

Posted 50 days ago by Jason

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  • November 4, 2008

    I voted early.  A columnist I read said that those of us who have already voted are no longer interested in the campaign.  That can't be further from the truth.  I feel relieved,proud and uncustomarily emotional.  The campaign just sent me a ticket to the VICTORY party today in Grant Park and like most of us, I can't stand large crowds.  But this is different, I am going.  To be part of a historical event is an overwhelming proposition and I wouldn't miss it for the world.  I will welcome our new president and Commander in Chief to his new position and I suspect there will be many tears flowing and some will be mine. 

  • October 29, 2008

    I am not a fatalist.  I don't necessarily think that we are destined for what comes in our lives.  I generally feel that things happen as a result of our actions, but this is different.  This is Obama's destiny and nothing can be done to stop it.  As one of McCain's supporters said "how did we get here"?  How did Obama, who really is inexperienced by political definitions get to this place where he very likely will be the next President of the United States.  All of this has been divine order.. this place we find ourselves in where a Black man will be our Commander in Chief and even if President Obama might be sacrificed (and it is a real possibility if you have seen the hate and filth posted on these many blogs),  it is all his destiny and I am so proud to be a part of this experience.

  • October 23, 2008

    Great post.  You can't help but wonder what difference Barak will make.  Our young brothers who insist on hurting people that look like them, young parents trying to eek out a living, the campaign not really addressing poor people at all.  Will it really make a difference in their lives?  I understand that the middle class is targeted because if we don't work, they don't eat, but with our own concerns of feeding our own families and having a roof over our own heads, how does that "trickle down" to people who $6.00 is a lot of money.  I don't necessarily think it will change poor people's lives but I do think it will give the next struggling young child the energy and knowledge to know that they CAN be the next "whatever they aspire to be".  HOPE!!!

  • August 4, 2008

    You have made a lot of assumptions.  Just because the mother is lacking in one area does not necessarily mean that she is across the board. (Although I am one who abhors men peeing in public against a building, in an urban area, when there are generally restrooms available all around).  I do think that psychologically she gives her son a message of entitlement by saying that it is okay to relieve/release yourself inappropriately and as you please, but I want to give her the benefit of the doubt that she was 1) with her son, if that was indeed her child and 2) tending to his needs.  But every decision that is made as a parent can be scrutinized, criticized and  critiqued.  It is a tough job, with no instruction manual  and we, as parents, make mistakes.  Let's hope that is just one slip of judgement against the hundreds of important, insightful decisions she makes for her child(ren)

  • July 23, 2008

    Wow!  Scary and it lends credence to "nothing good happens on the street late at night".  Times have changed and it is important to try to avoid putting yourself in volatile situations, but how do you do that?  It can happen anytime, any place; all you can do is live your life, be aware of you surroundings (which gratefully it sounds like you were) and trust in God.  I love you and I am glad that you are safe.

  • July 22, 2008

    Definitely required coordination.  It is a big world out here...hope that's not one of those video hoaxes.

  • July 20, 2008

    A story that needs telling over and over again...there is always hope

  • July 5, 2008

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  • July 2, 2008

    Times are getting harder. 
    This summer, in
    Chicago, there are daily broadcasts of killings of young, black males.  Where are their fathers. ..fathers of the victims, fathers of the offenders..would knowing, loving, respecting and having a father who is involved make a difference in these young people's life.  I know that sometimes women make it difficult for a man to be involved with their children, but isn't it worth the fight...your father proves that it makes a difference.  I wish the same for all Black children and their fathers. 

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